caterpillar castles

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  • #14179

    Darren
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    Has anyone got a local source of something like these "caterpillar castles" from http://www.livemonarch.com/castle.htm

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    I have made myself a wooden frame type from bits and pieces that were lying around, kind of like the one shown at http://www.monarchwatch.org/rear/cages.htm. It's working well, but I like the idea of being able to fold those castles away when not in use or pop them into a bucket of bleach to sterilise them from oe.

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  • #25231

    Darren
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    the castles have arrived and are now available for purchase from our (semi)online store:
    https://www.monarch.org.nz/items-for-sale/large-castles/

    #25196

    Darren
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    No problem Terry, I appreciated your comments and I hope someone with more knowledge than I in that area gets inspired by them.

    Your comments about Chinese imports are spot on. It seems like a large majority of items in the lower end bargin stores are from China these days. I can’t comment on the more expensive stores! 😉 Many of our local manufacturers cannot compete and are either going bankrupt or moving offshore.

    Personally with our distance from major markets I think we should be focussing on developing our low mass high value exports. But our history is in primary exports: meat, wool, timber. The discrepancy has seen a huge drop in our national standard of living on the international scale. But we keep on exporting logs and importing furniture, and our level of debt keeps rising.

    Our import regulations are a minefield, which is why we are only bringing in 20 castles at a time. Once we cross the $400 NZ barrier it turns into a paperwork nightmare.

    #25195

    Terry
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    I am sorry Darren, I should have thought about NZ unique situation, but I had no idea just how expensive such items are over there. I am surprised that the chinese have not exploited your markets with cheap goods, they certainly do in Europe mainly to our benefit, Cheap clothes and electronic goods are just two examples. However you may have heavy import taxes that I know nothing about. It seems that you suffer from the worst extremes of Capitalism because of lack of competition in the market place, rather than too much, normaly it’s the other way around. The example of your building friend importing timber from Australia because it’s cheaper tells me there is something very wrong in the way NZ trades with other countries and regulates competition at home.

    #25194

    Darren
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    Hi Terry, as you may have seen, the first post in this thread was me simply trying to find a local equivalent. I have not been able to find any locally, although the better kind of pop-up laundry hampers do seem ok as a chrysalis apartment.

    If someone were to set up making a local equivalent I’d be thrilled. But when I think about the cost of the raw materials such as zip, fine mesh, plastic sheet, and spring steel loops, I find it hard to imagine how they could be made locally for less than $20.

    New Zealand is in a unique situation in regards to its geographic distance from other markets. This can mean if the raw materials are not available locally the cost of importing them can be greater than simply importing the finished product. Also local manufacturers do tend to take advantage of the lack of competitors and charge whatever they think they can get away with. As an example a builder friend told me it is cheaper for him to import NEW ZEALAND timber from AUSTRALIA than it is to buy it here! When they sell in Australia they have to match their competitors prices over there, but they have no qualms about extorting their local customers.

    But having said all that, if someone wants to have a go knocking up collapsible mesh castles like this locally than go for it! But it is definitely not my area of expertise.

    #25191

    Terry
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    Hi all!
    As most of you know I live in the UK where there are more Entomologists than in NZ. I would just like to suggest that it may be a good idea if someone over there started making these cages at home and selling them to other butterfly and moth enthusiasts. you could also supply to schools and such like, to encourage children to help your butterflies. In the UK there are people who do this and also supply livestock to schools as well. The reason I posted this is because I was amazed how many of you were intersted in these particular cages and assume they are not available in NZ, yet!!!

    #25185

    Darren
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    A big thank you to everyone who helped with this trial order. As you have probably seen in the latest newsletter, it was so successful that we are going to add the large castle to our store items.

    #24316

    Jane
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    Thanks Darren. Parcel arrived here in good order and Stefan has picked his up. I think option c is fair on everyone too.

    I am delighted with the castle thanks very much for your effort which is very much appreciated : )

    Jane

    #24314

    Darren
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    So it’s looking like a majority on option (C), the cost of shipping will be pro-rata based on the value of each order. Great, that was my choice too.

    I just got my visa bill, the actual exchange rate was 0.7266 for a total of $385.02. Local postage was $49 so the official total final thank-goodness-that’s-over cost was $434.02NZ. The amount I asked you to pay was based on my estimate of $408 so I was a little out. Just taking my son to his swimming lesson, but I should get an email to all parties tonight letting them know their actual cost.

    #24311

    Anonymous

    Hi Darren – I agree too. Pay for what we ordered.
    If there’s any shortfall in the end because of credit card charges etc, maybe spread that evenly across all of us to avoid an admin nightmare for yourself.
    Thanks again for organising this – great products.
    Trisha

    #24310

    Alison
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    Hi Darren, I also agree with “C”, as it seems that if we had ordered directly, that would have been the way it was calculated. Ally

    #24309

    Charlotte
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    HI Darren,

    Thanks for ordering and sending the castles. The castles are FANTASTIC!
    The jumbo castle came in handy yesterday (Fri) as the weather was so foul up here in Auckland I could not release the Monarchs.
    They could happily fly around in the castle and then settled down for the night.
    Will take a photo soon and send it to Jacqui.

    Cheers
    Char

    #24306

    Jacqui
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    I would agree with Charlotte, choice c. It is what we would be paying if we went to a retailer, i.e. if there’s something you like, you’re prepared to pay a bit extra to get it from the shop, wherever that shop is.

    Some people buy stuff from a specialist shop that’s just down the road from them, and others who live far away pay extra to the same shop to get it sent to them.

    #24300

    MaryL
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    Hi Darren, I have already put the $12-50 in your account I think I should pay the cost of my order that is what I expected.

    Mary L

    #24299

    Charlotte
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    Darren in my opinion I would say (C) that we the ones like myself who have ordered larger castles pay their fair amount.

    Will be interesting to see everyone’s comments.

    I will go and collect mine tomorrow, as I was not home when they delivered yesterday (Wed).

    Cheers
    Char

    #24298

    Darren
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    Don’t panic about local postage at this stage, there was a factor for that included in the amount you paid. The final price depends on the exchange rate on the day VISA-USA transfers the bill to VISA-NZ. With a good exchange rate on the day local postage might be totally or mostly covered.

    A philosophical question for you all (and anyone else who has an opinion):

    (A)
    Should each individual pay the actual postage for their order? Initially that made sense to me. Some people ordered larger items than others, eg Jacqui’s socks were much easier to post than a jumbo castle! BUT, then I realised there is also a distance factor. That means Mary pays the most because she lives furthest away from me, and I pay nothing because they arrived at my house. In effect Mary pays my share of the postage. Is that fair?

    Or (B)
    should the total postage be split evenly between all the individuals? But two people combined their postage because they live close to each other so would it be fair to charge both of them? I could just split their postage between the two of them.

    Or (C)
    should the total postage be spread over the _cost_ of each person’s order, so the more expensive the order the bigger share of the postage?

    I’d be interested in anyone’s opinion on this because if people like their castles and socks we may well do another order.

    #24288

    MaryL
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    Hi Darren , I have just received parcel will put postage in your bank this afternoon
    Mary L

    #24287

    Anonymous

    Parcel received, thanks, Darren 🙂
    A bit heavier than I expected, so I was a bit short on the postage I sent. Will top up your account this arvo.
    Best
    Trisha

    #24225

    Darren
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    All packages posted.

    #24222

    Darren
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    Hey, I’m packing parcels and realised I don’t have everyone’s postal address. Please email your postal address to me ASAP if you haven’t already. If you aren’t sure if you have or not please send it again.

    cheers
    Darren

    #24175

    Jane
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    Thanks Heaps Darren for all your dedicated effort on our behalf. I am very appreciative of the time you have put in on this : ) I will use mine to stop the wanderings of the Admiral caterpillars around my kitchen : )

    Cheers and thanks again – Jane

    #24174

    MaryL
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    Fantastic news Darren, thanks again for all your work on this

    Mary L

    #24172

    Jacqui
    Moderator

    Brilliant! thanks Darren.

    #24166

    Charlotte
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    Awesome news Darren.
    With this horrible weather I am going to need my castles.
    I have over 100 butterflies in my back room, as my gazebo went over in the horrible wind yesterday;-(.
    Some have flown off the others were hanging on for all it was worth.

    Cheers
    Char

    #24164

    Anonymous

    Great, Darren.
    That was quick!
    Yes, thanks for organising it all.
    Best
    Trisha

    #24162

    Alison
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    Good news Darren, thank you so much for organising the shipment.

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